Dallas arts groups try to stay alive while working to diversify their boards

Dallas arts groups try to stay alive while working to diversify their boards

In the late summer of 2016, The Dallas Morning News took a long, hard look at local arts boards. Those are the people who make up the governing bodies of the city’s six biggest arts organizations. And what we found was surprising.

The boards were beginning to veer younger and more corporate, and although older, white men continued to dominate, their once-fierce hold — some would say stranglehold — was beginning to fade. Seven years ago, for the first time, boards were inching toward becoming more diverse, albeit slowly.

Women were commanding a more powerful presence than ever before, with four of the city’s six biggest arts groups placing female leaders at the helm. The city took the progression a step further in 2018, when the City Council voted 14-0 to adopt a radically new Cultural Plan.

But that was then and this is now.

In the first quarter of 2020, we entered what was called “a national emergency,” as COVID-19 began its march around the world. And suddenly, Dallas’ six biggest arts companies — and in particular, their boards — were faced with a new mission: survival.

As their focus has changed, each of the nonprofit companies — Dallas Symphony Orchestra, Dallas Museum of Art, AT&T Performing Arts Center, the Dallas Opera, Dallas Theater Center, and Broadway Dallas (known seven years ago as Dallas Summer Musicals) — has moved on.

At the moment, they are juggling the need to continue embracing the tenets of diversity, equity, and inclusion, while at the same time navigating the economic perils of staying alive as arts organizations in the challenging world of 2023.

Taken as a whole, however, the “Big 6” have improved dramatically in the area of diversity since we took our first poll in 2016.

Kenneth T. Novice, who became the president of Broadway Dallas in 2017, said the primary change affecting boards across the country in the last seven years comes down to a single word: desire.

“There is a desire,” Novice says, “to make changes to boards when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There’s a lot of conversation about that and people discussing ‘How can we do more than just make a statement? And what would that look like?’ ”

Soon after his arrival, Novice’s company adopted a new strategic plan, which contained five pillars, one of which is EDIA (equity, diversity, inclusion, access).

“However, since that time,” he says, Novice and two board members “went through the Dallas Truth, Racial Healing & Transformation program.

“And it opened our eyes,” he says, to making diversity, equity and inclusion “a larger plan of the organization.” And not just a separate adjunct. “In other words, we need to have this running through the entire organization to make it have the kind of effect we need to have.”

And that, he says, is the single biggest change in the approach arts companies are taking toward diversity since 2016.

During his years as an arts executive, Novice once worked with Sheldon Epps, an American theater and television producer and the artistic director of The Pasadena Playhouse, who believed that diversifying artistic boards would not lessen or compromise the economic power of such groups but rather do the opposite.

“Sheldon’s view is that there is an economic benefit in a commitment to EDIA — by expanding your base of ticket buyers, your base of donors, by reaching people who may not have been patrons of your theater before.”

In other words, Epps believed that reaching out to communities of color in California “was going to be good for the organization financially, as well as being beneficial from a social perspective.”

The Epps doctrine has, for the most part, become a national trend.

So, where does it stand in Dallas? With that context in mind, we offer a detailed look at the “Big 6” and how they’re faring culturally and financially in what may be the most challenging era arts organizations have seen at any point in their history.

Broadway Dallas

Broadway Dallas chart of board diversity and funding.

Michael Hogue

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The Dallas Morning News

Board president: Tom Watson 

Board size: 36 (in 2016, the board had 146 general members, with 15 officers and 40 on its executive committee. That is a reduction in board size of more than 75%).

Diversity: 80.5% white, 19.4% non-white. (In 2016, it was three Hispanics, one Black American board member and one Asian American). That is an increase in diversity of 40%.

Gender: 24 male, 12 female (in 2016, it was 78 men, 68 women). That is an increase since 2016 of slightly more than 3%. 

Term limits: The board member elected as chair serves in that role for two years. However, they can potentially continue as a board member after their service as chair. Each board member (including the chair) serves on the board for three years, with an opportunity to potentially serve a consecutive three-year term. 

Giving and participating guidelines: Each board member must give a minimum of $5,000.

Noteworthy mentions: Board member Vicki D. Blanton recently achieved a career milestone when she was admitted to the U.S. Supreme Court bar, meaning that she is eligible to argue cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court. 

Fundraising expectations: “Board members must give a minimum of $5,000 annually, plus hold a season subscription. They are required to serve as ambassadors of Broadway Dallas and participate in ‘friend-raising’ and fund-raising activities.”

Annual budget: $35 million (in 2016, it was $19.5 million. Between then and now, that is an increase of more than 79%.)

Endowment: $250,000 (in 2016, there was no endowment fund).

Debt: $0

How has the pandemic impacted diversity efforts and the organization’s financial standing?

 “The pandemic did not impact our commitment or activities related to EDIA and our financial standing remains strong. We are grateful for the support we received through SVOG and the enthusiasm of our Broadway audiences who helped bring us through the pandemic. It was, of course, not without pain, like many of our sister arts organizations, we had to make difficult choices, but we’re pleased with our current attendance and the wonderful experiences audiences are having with Broadway shows.”

AT&T Performing Arts Center

(Data covers fiscal year 2024, which begins Aug. 1)

AT&T Performing Arts Center data on board diversity and funding.

Michael Hogue

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The Dallas Morning News

Board president: Danny Tobey, partner at the law firm DLA Piper

Board size:  70 (“Our total number has stayed in the 60-70 range. We have term limits and some ‘retirements,’ so the membership is not static.) That is an increase of more than 27% since 2016. 

Diversity: 43% non-white, 57% white (That is an increase of almost 114% in seven years.)

Gender: 46% male, 54% female (“It has generally hovered around 50-50 for years.”)

Term limits: “Each term is three years. A director may serve two consecutive terms. When terms are through, board members who want to stay engaged but not with board service move to our emeritus board. We also have an auxiliary board of young professionals. We have five lifetime directors: Matrice Ellis-Kirk, Bess Enloe, Caren Prothro, Deedie Rose and Howard Hallam.”

Giving and participating guidelines: “While there is an expectation of giving, we do not have a minimum give. We ask all to make a gift that is personally significant for them. We have 100% participation. Average gift is $10,000. In addition to regular attendance at board meetings, they need to serve on at least one of our standing committees (annual fund, marketing, education and community engagement, nominations and Governance, finance, etc.)

Noteworthy mentions: “We recently added our first artist to the board, singer/producer/actress Denise Lee!” 

Annual budget: $23 million (in 2016, it was $35 million). 

Endowment: $3.9 million

Debt: $15 million, which is targeted to be paid down by 2026. (Seven years ago, it was $95 million.)

How has the pandemic impacted diversity efforts and the organization’s financial standing? “In about 2015, when Matrice Ellis-Kirk became our chair-elect, we built a long-term strategy to diversify our board on a range of fronts, with a strong focus on ethnicity, but also LGBTQ status, geography and profession.

“We have adhered to this strategy [even through the pandemic] and have seen our ethnic and LGBT percentage continue to grow. While I haven’t looked in a while, I believe the Center’s board membership has one of the highest ethnic percentage numbers among major non-ethnic arts organizations in Dallas.

Financially, we are healthy. We are ending fiscal year 2023 with a small surplus which is targeted for deferred maintenance and repairs. Our board has approved a balanced budget for fiscal year 2024.”  

Dallas Museum of Art

Dallas Museum of Art chart on board diversity and funding.

Michael Hogue

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The Dallas Morning News

Board president: Gowri N. Sharma

Board size: 65

Diversity: 62% white, 38 non-white. That is an increase of more than 171% in the diversity category. 

Gender: 38% male, 62% female. That is an increase of almost 32% in the number of female trustees.

Term limits and/or length of service requirement: 

Officers: president, chairman: 6-year total with three, 2-year terms

Elected trustees: 6-year total with two, 3-year terms

Representative trustees: term varies, minimum of one year

Ex-Officios: term varies, minimum of one year

Giving and participating guidelines: “There is no minimum entry fee. Requirements include attendance at every board meeting and service on a standing committee or task force.”

Fundraising expectations:  “We would consider our board to be both. Although there is no financial requirement, we are thankful for a board that prioritizes financial support as part of their service.”

Noteworthy mentions: “Gowri N. Sharma is the first BIPOC chair in the history of the Dallas Museum of Art. The 2022-23 board of trustees was the most diverse board in museum history.

Annual budget: $31,132,298 in fiscal year 2022. That is an increase of more than $9 million since 2016. 

Endowment: $234,247,198 in fiscal year 2022. That is an increase of more than $46 million since 2016. 

Debt: $5,083,280 (That is an increase of almost $1.6 million since 2016)

How has the pandemic impacted diversity efforts and the organization’s financial standing?

“The pandemic brought what National Public Radio coined the ‘summer of racial reckoning.’ Our pursuit of diversity started from the top in 2016 when Dr. Agustin Arteaga, a Mexican-born gay man, was selected through an international search to serve as the first non-white director in the history of the DMA. The DMA has worked to increase diversity since and 2020 helped us accelerate that work. In fiscal year 2023, the DMA elected its most diverse board in history — 64% of new hires were BIPOC, 64% of art purchased was created by BIPOC artists and 53% of our programs featured BIPOC performers and artists.

“The DMA, like its peers, continues to work to get back to pre-pandemic revenue numbers as we navigate the realities of post-pandemic attendance and behaviors.”

Dallas Symphony Orchestra

Dallas Symphony Orchestra chart on board diversity and funding.

Michael Hogue

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The Dallas Morning News

Board president: Cece Smith

Board size: 116 (an increase of 48 since 2016)

Diversity: 29% non-white (an increase of 19% in the non-white category since 2016)

Gender: 50% male/female (an increase of 10% in female board members since 2016)

Term limits: Three-year terms (no term limits for board of governors members)

Giving and participating guidelines (for instance, is there a minimum entry fee or annual requirements)? Suggested annual donation of $10,000

Notable Mentions: DSA Board Chair Cece Smith served as chair of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve of Dallas, the first woman in that role. The board of the DSA includes members from across the community including Zenetta Drew, executive director of the Dallas Black Dance Theatre; T.D. Jakes, the founder and senior pastor at The Potter’s House; and Geoffroy van Raemdonck, CEO of Neiman Marcus.

Annual budget: $48 million (an increase of almost $12 million since 2016)

Endowment: $136 million (an increase of $15 million since 2016)

Debt: “No debt but use line of credit to manage cash flow.”

How has the organization changed since the pandemic lockdown and how does that affect the organization in moving forward? 

“Full audience engagement and ticket sales have not yet rebounded to pre-COVID levels, requiring more fundraising this and last season. While sales are trending in the right direction, we are also increasing our reach in the coming months with new marketing and message development. We have expanded our community concerts with more than 200 chamber music concerts annually throughout [Dallas-Fort Worth] including park concerts, DSO on the Go, the Concert Truck residency and DSO Cares concerts in hospitals and elder care facilities.

We have redoubled our EDI efforts as well as our music education work for Dallas ISD students. As a result of the pandemic, we expanded our digital efforts and are producing 30-40 on-demand DSO concerts each season. Several of these productions were aired on PBS and Bloomberg TV and nominated for and won Emmy and Telly awards. Due to the pandemic, the Meyerson Symphony Center was used less frequently, which allowed the DSO to do a tremendous amount of deferred maintenance to the property.”

Dallas Theater Center

Dallas Theater Center chart on board diversity and funding.

Michael Hogue

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The Dallas Morning News

Board President:  Chris Luna

Board size:  53, excluding life trustees (a reduction of 13 since 2016)

Diversity: White 64%, BIPOC 36% (an increase of 26% in the latter category since 2016)

Gender: 54% female, 46% male (an increase of 7% in female board members since 2016)

Term limits: Trustees normally serve three-year terms, renewable for a total of two consecutive terms.

Giving and participating guidelines: While not all trustees will fulfill their responsibilities in exactly the same way, the responsibilities generally expected of a trustee include support of DTC’s performance program by purchasing a full-season subscription and by assisting DTC in building its base of season subscribers; provide or procure $15,000 in contributions; and attend board meetings on a regular basis.

Fundraising expectations: Maintain a minimum $2,500 benefactor membership, which will count toward the above mentioned $15,000 contributions requirement.

Noteworthy mentions: “Deedie Rose is a Linz Award winner, and Frank Risch will receive the Linz Award this year. The Linz Award honors individuals whose community and humanitarian efforts have created the greatest benefit to Dallas over the last decade. We also have as board members multiple recipients of the Silver Cup Award, given for excellence in service to the arts in Dallas.

One interesting board member (among many) is Lynn Pride Richardson, the chief public defender for Dallas County. Lynn was a theater major in college and has appeared twice onstage in the Wyly in DTC’s Public Works Pageants as a featured cast member. DTC’s Public Works Pageants include professional actors working alongside more than one hundred community members to present epic theater by and for all of Dallas.”

Annual budget:  For fiscal year 2024, $7.5 million. (A reduction of $2.5 million since 2016). 

Endowment: $10.8 million. (An increase of $4.8 million since 2016).

Debt: “We are currently executing a plan that will eliminate all debt by the end of our fiscal year (Aug. 31, 2023), except for a loan to DTC from its endowment, which has an extended maturity date and payment schedule. (There was no debt in 2016.)” 

How has the organization changed since the pandemic lockdown and how does that affect the organization in moving forward? “The pandemic has had a profound impact on audiences. Our productions of Clue, A Christmas Carol and Into the Woods had sold-out performances last season, but overall attendance remains below pre-pandemic levels and inflation-driven expenses have increased. In order to ensure balanced, sustainable budgets for the future, we have had to reduce our expenses, including painful staff layoffs in the spring.

“These industry-wide challenges are causing a re-examination of the business and artistic models for professional theaters nationwide, which ultimately presents an opportunity for reinvention. Just as the birth of the regional theater movement has deep roots in Dallas, we expect the Dallas theater community will embrace these challenges and remake theater in a more creative, collaborative and sustainable way. At DTC, we have been fortunate to have a deeply committed and engaged board throughout these difficult times. Their determination in the face of adversity and their belief in the importance of theater for our community has been inspiring.”

The Dallas Opera

The Dallas Opera chart on board diversity and funding.

Michael Hogue

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The Dallas Morning News

Board president: Quincy Roberts, as of July 1

Board size: 45 (directors, including ex officio) (A reduction of 15 since 2016)

Diversity: 22% non-white (An increase of 17% in the latter category since 2016)

Gender: 49% female; 51% male (No change since 2016)

Term limits and/or length of service requirement: “The Dallas Opera implemented term limits for members of the executive committee in February 2020; limit is 2 consecutive 3-year terms in the same office.”

Giving and participating guidelines: “Not anymore. Candidates are evaluated on their ability to contribute in different ways: their time, their skills or talent, and financially.”

Noteworthy mentions: “Quincy Roberts, CEO of Dallas-based Roberts Trucking, Inc., is the first Black American board chair in the history of The Dallas Opera.”

Annual budget: $18.9 million (for fiscal year 2024)

Endowment: $28.9 million at the end of fiscal year 2023. (An increase of $1.1 million since 2016)

Debt: “As of the latest audited financials (June 30, 2022), the opera’s total debt was $5 million, of which $2 million was a pandemic-related loan from The Dallas Opera Foundation. That amount hasn’t changed much since then.” (There was no reported debt in 2016.)

How has the organization changed since the pandemic lockdown and how does that affect the organization in moving forward? “Many aspects of our operations have changed. To the good, enhanced and improved capabilities for remote meetings have helped in both our daily and long-term planning, especially with international creative teams. We continue to offer our staff a myriad of work-from-home options that have resulted in better work/life balance without hindering productivity. Our greatly expanded and successful online and digital offerings with over 4,000 subscribers were primarily born from the pandemic. We showcase unique free content to audiences of all ages and our low-cost livestreams provide international access and build brand awareness.

“With the rise of inflation, nearly every one of our expense lines has increased post-pandemic (travel, housing, transportation, production supplies, etc.). However, for the audience, the most evident change is not what they see in our performances, but how much. We added two free community engagement concerts (The People’s Choice and Holiday Concert at Cathedral Guadalupe) but reduced our seasonal mainstage productions from five to four with only four performances of each. The Dallas Opera is not an outlier in this; most major opera companies in the United States have implemented similar reductions. Moving forward, we feel we are better positioned to grow as audience demand increases. In fact, our mainstage capacity sold for the 2022-23 season was 71% compared to 57% for the 18/19 season.”

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617 Q&A: Police guitarist Andy Summers on photography, touring, and music docs

617 Q&A: Police guitarist Andy Summers on photography, touring, and music docs

When Vanyaland first began to explain the concept of the 617 Q&A to Andy Summers, his reaction was much different than any of two dozen or so interview subjects who’ve taken part in the feature over the years. It turns out those specific digits combined are ones he relates to quite strongly.

“617 is a magical number for me,” the iconic guitarist of The Police explains. “It’s on my phone. I lived at a house called 617. This is a number, 617, that sort of pursued me throughout my life, weirdly.”

When informed that 617 is actually the area code for Boston, ground zero for New England and where he’ll be kicking off his multimedia The Cracked Lens + A Missing String Tour this Friday (July 21) at The Cabot Theatre in Beverly — followed by two additional regional dates — Summers was delighted with the symbolism.

“This is a good sign,” he said. “Oh, this is a good sign. Yeah. It’s weird. I realized this years ago that this 617 seems to follow me. Weird, isn’t it?”

Weird and hopefully fortuitous for someone who has found success traversing multiple artistic avenues since joining The Police in the late ‘70s. Rounded out by drummer Stewart Copeland alongside singer, bassist, lute aficionado and tantric sex practitioner Sting, the trio became wildly popular staples of the MTV generation with hits like “Every Breath You Take,” “Message in a Bottle” and “Roxanne.” Their bitter infighting was the stuff of legend, and the group called it a day at the apex of their career in the mid-’80s, with a brief attempt at reconvening in 1986 squashed when Copeland fell off a horse and broke his collarbone.

Summers discovered photography early in The Police run, becoming quite adept at it and leading to the publication of several books featuring his work. The most recent is his retrospective collection A Series of Glances, which was released this past spring. Combined with a bevy of musical, literary and film related projects, he’s always been looking for a way to marry his numerous creative undertakings in the live setting. Summers thinks he’s finally accomplished that goal with The Cracked Lens + A Missing String. In addition to the Cabot show, he’ll be in East Greenwich, Rhode Island, at the Greenwich Odeum this Saturday (July 22) and in Ridgefield at Connecticut’s Ridgefield Playhouse on Sunday (July 23).

During our 617 Q&A (Six Questions; One Recommendation; Seven Somethings), Summers discussed the machinations behind the show and how he laid it out. Full of acerbic wit and bone-dry English humor, he also talked about his peers in music who have gotten behind the camera, name-checked his favorite music-related films and revealed a chance encounter he had with Spinal Tap’s Nigel Tufnel.

:: SIX QUESTIONS

Michael Christopher: What can people who are wondering, ‘What is The Cracked Lens + A Missing String all about?’ expect from the tour?

Andy Summers: Well, I came up with that title. My manager said, “Where did you come up with that?” I go, “That’s why you’re a manager and I’m the artist – okay?” I spent my life sitting around thinking of shit like this. I think it sort of implies a state of vulnerability, and there goes a theory — you can challenge it if you want — that I think in the vulnerable state you’re more open and you’re more likely to be creative. Rather than… there’s so many analogies you can make about this kind of thing where you’re like fully trained and you’re ready and you’ve gotta – and it’s not really all that good, whereas you’re in a much more fragile state and you’re more open to chance incident things happening that you weren’t expecting.

A significant part of the show is going to be incorporating your photography into the performance. And if there’s anything that’s become clear over the years, it’s that photography is just as important to you as music in terms of being a facet of your artistry and not just some side hobby.

It‘s not really a side hobby because there’s too much effort and passion that goes into it. I don’t think it’s ever gonna challenge music because basically I am music, that’s what I am, you know? I think I could say that and not be challenged on it. When I started into photography, like formally as it were, it was like a formal decision to myself, “Okay, you will now get the camera and you will be a good photographer” – dumb shit like that in a hotel room in New York.

But off I went and here we are all these years later and I had an amazing amount of action with it, but also, I should say thoroughly enjoyed it, I’m still completely engaged with it. I’m organized. I have an archive. I’m looking forward to, even for instance, touring the states of the rest of the year, I’ll be photographing a lot and looking forward to the magical opportunities, hopefully, that might arise along the way. So, yeah, it does take up quite a lot of mental space for me. But I find that it goes well with being a musician. It doesn’t interfere with it and I seem to be able to manage the two things and hence, and sort of logically, I finally brought them together in this show. I’m amazed I didn’t do this years ago actually. Why did it take me so long to like just bring the two?

I should add that the technology that’s become available has made this much more easy to do. We can do things I can do in my studio that we would never been able to pull this off before [live]. I’ve got all my very sophisticated electronic equipment to play the guitar through, so I get amazing guitar sounds and I show various, fairly exotic sequences of photography that I’ve carefully put together, some with backing tracks that I’m playing to, some solo, all sorts of different sounds. I have a whole Brazilian section I do, which is really sweet. Of course, I play some Police tracks, re-thought out versions of the songs where I’m playing the lead, obviously, on the guitar, so on and so forth.

That leads into my next question, which is, you’ve got such an extensive catalog of music to pull from. How do you decide which pieces to include into this type of show?

Yeah, it’s difficult actually. And I don’t know that one always gets it right. When we go out, we’re gonna do about eight or nine shows on this first little run, then take a break, see how I feel after that. I tried to create a balance of sort of exotic, and it might be slow and drifting against a harder thing with more of a upbeat rhythm or rock rhythm, whatever it is, from the various records.

I was just sort of thinking about it last night. I’ve chosen particular pieces where I feel like I can go and play a sort of — hopefully — a thrilling guitar solo in the middle, so [the audience gets what they expect]. So that’s what I do. If we’re lucky we’ve gone out, we’ve got it completely right, or come back and go, “Okay, let’s change this. Just change that. Let’s adjust.” That’s the typical thing, right? You go out and you do a few of ’em, and you get better at it, and it starts to get a little bit slicker and tighter. Just like a band — not that much different.

"African Boy" ©Andy Summers

You put together A Series of Glances, a collection of your photos. Whether it’s the cover of the book or images, I guess the titles would be “Man and Morocco” or “Masks in Mexico,” “Woman in Cambodia,” you’re stepping into their world and grabbing a snapshot of it. I’m curious as to how you approach the subject, especially if you don’t speak the language. Do you sort of gesture with the camera, or do you have a translator and ask if you can take picture?

Well, it is a very pertinent point you’re making because I have traveled in a lot of exotic places, particularly in China – I went eight times and all over it. I’ve got into some pretty deep places [laughs]. They certainly don’t speak English. It’s really the crux of the matter; how do you get these pictures without upsetting people, being unkind? Whatever. Sometimes in different cultures [people] are okay with it some aren’t. I mean, for instance, Muslim culture. I went to Morocco four times. I think I’ve got a whole other book there. It was very rewarding but very difficult because if you point a camera, they don’t like it. So you have to be very careful.

Whereas I’m thinking, well, I’m thinking “China, no problem.” They like it, you know, and they start smiling. I said, “Don’t smile.” And one thing I learned in China, actually, was to carry a pack of cigarettes. I go, “Hey, how you doing?” You know? I go up and give ’em a cigarette – and they all smoke and immediately take it – and they start smiling. Then you stand there, you know, just nodding or whatever, and then you’ll get a picture. There’s little tricks to it, especially if you wanna call it “street photography,” which I don’t, you are in vulnerable situations where you’ve gotta kind of work out how you’re gonna either communicate or not communicate or get that photograph somehow. If it’s a person that you are shooting somewhere outside, you have to be sort of subversive and stealthy. Pretend you’re not taking photographs.

And there’s another trick called triangulation, which I like, which [American photographer] Ralph Gibson taught me. Say you’re on a street corner and there’s someone standing there. They’re like four and a half feet away. Focus the camera on something that’s exactly that same distance. So, you are in focus then [mimics quickly turning with a camera in hand] Bam. Got it. Little tricks like that.

What would you say separates you from other musicians who also do photography? Do you think it’s a level of dedication? Because I feel like a lot of them kind of dabble in it…

I’ve seen others and I always think, “Well, they’re not as good as me.” I’m much more… serious. I just think I’m better at it. Yeah, they dabble at it. You know, like there was something in the paper last week, “Paul McCartney’s photographs.” Well, they’re fucking terrible. They’re bullshit. They’re only in there ‘cause it says Paul McCartney. But as photographs, that’s really false. That’s like, “come on.” I have, like, really zero interest in musicians who take photographs. I mean, there, there’s maybe one or two. I’m thinking maybe Milt Hinton, a great jazz bass player. He took photographs of his sort of jazz scene at the time. Those are pretty cool.

Milt Hinton had some really amazing images from that period. He did a lot of work with Cab Calloway and when he dug into his photography, he really made it an art form, I think.

Yeah. Well, he was there at a great time when that scene was so authentic – he was a musician – talented. I have to look that up again. That’s the name that’s coming to mind for me.

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Shifting to music, around 1983, 1984 it was sort of the end of the band, everyone was leaning into their own separate pursuits, and I guess doing quite well with them. But is there ever a part of you that wonders what could have been if The Police stayed together instead of breaking up? Or if you could have made those ‘86 sessions work – maybe if Stewart doesn’t fall off that horse or…

So typical. So bloody typical. Yeah, I dunno. I really think Sting was pulling away. He really wanted to have a go on his own. I don’t think there was much stopping of that. He wasn’t really interested in doing that session, but, you know, Stewart’s accident ruined it anyway, that blew it out of the water. Everybody wanted us to get back together, I mean, they were hovering – the record company in particular – obviously. For all the obvious reasons.

:: ONE RECOMMENDATION

Andy Summers: I would recommend a film I just saw called The Empire of Light, which is by Sam Mendes, he’s a great film director. It’s all about a little situation that takes place in an old cinema on the seacoast of England. It’s a wonderful film with Olivia Colman that really surprised me – great filmmaking. It starts off with nothing; a nothing situation with so-called very ordinary people working in cinema. And then it just goes to other places that you just wouldn’t expect like madness, racism, all kinds of sexual infidelity, all in this little cinema. It’s a marvelous piece of writing and acting. I was really struck by it.

:: SEVEN OF SOMETHING

What is great about that recommendation is it ties nicely into the seven part of the 617 Q&A. The documentary Can’t Stand Losing You: Surviving the Police was based on your memoir One Train Later. Tell me seven of your personal favorite music documentaries or music adjacent films.

I don’t like films that try to make films about rock bands cause they never get it right. They never get it right. It’s amazing that filmmakers just can’t get it right with bands. They try so hard to be authentic.

Like Bohemian Rhapsody

Oh, terrible. Really terrible. Don’t do it. I’m actually probably against them because they never get it right and they’re corny. Gosh, that was awful. Dreadful.

Eight Days a Week: It’s the one about The Beatles by Ron Howard, which I thought was terrific. I mean, he put it together, he didn’t, I mean, obviously it was, it’s old footage, but it’s The Beatles on tour before they gave up. And it’s very intimate and personal so it’s like a real band film. I thought that was pretty great actually.

Spinal Tap: I guess we should say Spinal Tap of course, it’s the Bible, you know? Got to have Spinal Tap in there.

Did any of Spinal Tap hit close to home for you?

Oh yeah [laughs]. It’s all so true.

I’ll tell you a weird little story. I live in Santa Monica and there’s a really nice delicatessen place not far away where you can get fancy French cheeses and all that. And this is a couple of years ago. But I went in there one day with one of my kids and we were just sort standing there trying to get a bottle of wine and Christopher Guest came in – he was sort of in front of me. He didn’t recognize me, but I knew who he was, he was Nigel Tufnel. So we were standing at the desk and he, he was sort of fumbling about and he took out his credit cards and he dropped one. He was trying to pay, and he dropped a credit card and it was on his shoe. So, I went up to him and I sort gave it to him and he went, “Oh thanks.” But you know, that was it. I didn’t wanna go, “Oh, Nigel!” you know, but that was just a great moment, like a sort of abstraction of all that, our worship of Nigel Tufnel and Spinal Tap and that was my one moment with him. Anyway, it was just this funny little incident that seemed very Spinal Tap.

Almost Famous: I would put Almost Famous in, ‘cause I wasn’t flinching, “Oh, this is inauthentic.” Well, [writer/director] Cameron Crowe, had been around it so much and being a writer about it, I think he had a better shot at getting it right and I think he pretty much did.

Can’t Stand Losing You: Surviving the Police: What about my film? Let’s put my film in there. Can’t Stand Losing You. It’s not as good as the book. The book is much better. It’s okay. It almost collapsed altogether and only got saved in the end by getting the brilliant editor, Andy Grieve. It was fucked up by the ego of, in my opinion, Brett Morgen, who’s made other films since. It should have been a great experience, but it wasn’t what I hoped for. It could have been much better. In fact, I’ve always sort of thought to remake it.

Rock Around the Clock: Partly because when that came out, [for] people in England, it was a huge, big deal because back in those days they had Teddy Boys and they would go to see Rock Around the Clock and slash up the seats with their knives and all this kind of shit. It made a big impact.

Elvis: I don’t like Baz Luhrmann films because he goes so fucking baroque and fancy, I just can’t stand it in the end. He almost went there at the end of the film, but he didn’t quite. But the kid who played Elvis [Austin Butler], no one can play Elvis. You can’t do it. I mean, come on, you just can’t do that. And he did it and he, actually pulled it off I thought. I was impressed because it was quite watchable and tragic, of course, you know, sad what happened.

Quadrophenia : I think Quadrophenia would be a good choice. ‘Cause I remember, you know, we went to the premiere, of course [Note: Summers’ Police bandmate, Sting, had a role in the film]. I thought it was good. Well, Pete [Townshend] is very good and I’m sure he had a lot to do with the way that came out. I liked it because I was there at the time and it was very authentic – they sort of got it right. And the little guy, Phil [Daniels], the actor was great. That was a very good effort. I have a lot of admiration for Pete. He’s a very singular person.

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Watching for the Bus Stop Gallery

Watching for the Bus Stop Gallery
Felipe Baeza’s “Unruly Forms” are coming to bus shelters in the U.S. and Mexico. Merging painting and printmaking, his images explore the displacement of migrants and antiquities.

Street photography by VoidTokyo on full display in Ginza

Street photography by VoidTokyo on full display in Ginza

VoidTokyo is an 11-member photo collective founded in 2017 by street photographer Tatsuo Suzuki that is committed to printing the photographs of its members to the medium of paper through regular publication of zines and exhibitions.

“I approached photographers who were interested in my work but mainly active on the internet without having the opportunity to exhibit or publish their photobooks,” says Suzuki, 58. “The idea behind VoidTokyo is to take pictures of Tokyo together and leave them on paper.”

“Because no matter how good the photo is on the internet, it just goes on the (Instagram) timeline and nothing (physical) remains.”

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No Ones Likes Us: Photographs that take a second look at Millwall football fans

No Ones Likes Us: Photographs that take a second look at Millwall football fans

In the late 1960s, Millwall Football Club developed a reputation for violence and organised football hooliganism. Hence the popular chant from the terraces: “No one likes us, we don’t care”.

The club, and football as a whole, has changed massively since then, but to most people born in the last century, the reputation remains. And so we were fascinated to hear about a photography project that focuses on what Millwall supporters are actually like today.

Inside story

The project is the work of Jérôme Favre, a French documentary and portrait photographer based in New Cross, London. “Over the last three years, I undertook a project called No One Likes Us, an immersive photo documentary inside the world of Millwall FC,” he explains. “It’s a fresh look at Millwall supporters that re-evaluates their reputation in contemporary football culture.”

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So what sparked the idea? “The project was borne out of my fascination for football and football culture,” he explains. “I found a lot of similarities between my hometown club – RC Lens, in Northern France – and Millwall FC. Both are working-class clubs created around tight-knit communities. I was also curious about Millwall’s infamous reputation and wanted to cast an honest look on the club and its supporters.

“I always wanted to do something about football culture, and when I moved to New Cross, my local pub was this weird mix of Millwall fans, Goldsmiths students and random live music. After talking to a few people, I thought it was a great idea for a project, and I started going to the Den every match day, shooting people outside and inside the stadium, and going to nearby pubs and cafés to meet fans and workers.

“It was a little intimidating at first, but people were generally curious about my project. I took the photos over three years, between 2018 and 2022, with a long hiatus due to Covid.”

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Standout moments

He recalls some standout moments from this period. “The people who asked me if I worked for the old bill. A fan who came all the way from Korea and couldn’t speak a word of English. The youngsters and the oldies.

“But the person who stands out is perhaps the skinhead on the book cover. Taking photos at Millwall is a fairly intimidating thing to do, but this guy genuinely looked scary. When I saw the tattoos on the back of his skull and the stands in the background, though, I knew I had to approach him. It turns out he was the gentlest, most polite gentleman.”

In short, he believes most Millwall fans aren’t as bad as they’re made out to be. “It still feels like a family club,” he explains. “People come with their family: men, women, boys and girls, sometimes across three generations. Not only for the football but for the sense of community and togetherness.”

No One Likes Us by Jérôme Favre

No One Likes Us by Jérôme Favre

No One Likes Us by Jérôme Favre

No One Likes Us by Jérôme Favre

No One Likes Us by Jérôme Favre

No One Likes Us by Jérôme Favre

But while Millwall’s supporters may have traditional values, the world of football is definitely changing around them.

“Whether it’s for better or for worse depends on your standpoint. The Premier League, for example, has contributed to a better standard of football and less violence. However, Premier League clubs are run like big businesses, and the tight link between clubs and fan base has sometimes disappeared completely. This is why more people are interested in lower league, grassroots football clubs, where they can find that sense of community again.”

And from Jérôme’s point of view, ordinary fans are still the lifeblood of the sport. “Football clubs and communities have always gone hand in hand,” he says. “Football clubs in this country were usually set up by factories or churches to encourage a sense of community or belonging. Millwall was founded by the workers of JT Morton’s canning and preserve factory in the Isle of Dogs. A mining company set up my club RC Lens; for decades, both players and fans were coal miners.”

Jérôme has self-published his series in a photo book titled No One Likes Us, which you can buy here. To learn more about the artist, visit jeromefavrephotography.com.

James Neumann

James Neumann
James E. Neumann, 85, died of an aneurysm in his brain July 11 at Mercy Hospital in Iowa City. His family was with him. An art show and celebration of